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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

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  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  Orphan Crow,

  In fairness to the opposition and based on the first 1/5 of the transcript that I have read so far, there are place where the person writing the transcript misheard or at the very least fail to figure out the right word from the context. She/he wrote "one and five" instead of "one in five" as the context suggests. In other places he/she may have commited the same error.

  I noticed that the whole thing is in video too. Is the stenographer allowed to see that video to correct obvious transcription errors before printing and distributing the final product?

  It's impossible to determine if the speaker misspoke or the listener misheard, but it's obvious that one of these problems happened quite frequently during the deposition. I haven't read many documents like these, so it's hard to comparatively "grade" this transcription. It, however, has many mistakes that appear to be inconsequential and could be attributed to the stenographer.
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  Thank you Orphan Crow for bringing some balance to this thread's discussions and enlightening information about the legal system that is designed to be as fair and as just as possible, even to the people we perceive to be the bad guys. I will keep an eye on you from now on. I get a feeling that I can learn from you.
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  My Breaking Point -- 11/9/14

  by game1914over in

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  i have enjoyed reading your comments during the past four years.

  deep down inside, i have always been agnostic.

  the first few chapters in genesis are contradictory and differing.. no one has ever been able to answer my question: "why was satan ever created?".

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  never a jw

  Miraloma Assembly Hall. Yes that's an assembly hall that was built in a piece of land that cost pennies. That project was done after they sold a piece of prime real estate in a very expensive area in Los Angeles (Woodland Hills). Now the brothers and sisters have to travel 70 or more miles --versus 5 to 20 miles before-- to attend their assemblies in a stinky kingdom hall. The Watchtower makes huge profits by selling in the millions and buying in the thousands, while the brothers have to spend a lot more money to get to the stinky hall. And as if that's not enough, they also contaminate the environment a lot more. The cost of the assembly hall is much cheaper, but the cost of the assemblies to brothers and sisters is more expensive. It's a cult, it's a busines.
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  My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!

  by BU2B in

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  2. friends

  to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.

  around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.

  he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.

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  never a jw

  Jehovah will provide for sure. Through some sort mental power (as he did with King David when he lift the census) Jehovah will control your mind and tell you to support your parents. You may think that you are doing a good deed but no credit goes to you. It's all Jehovah.

  You have to bring some reality to your parents. It's your duty since you are the mature person in the family and likely the most affected by their irresponsible behavior.
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  Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

  by Lady Lee in

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  2. scandals

  thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

  one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

  if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

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  I don't think the religion's policies are entirely responsible for the apparent high suicide rate of JW's and ex-JW's. I think rather the religion pushes those people who already have some predesposition (genetic or life experience) to depression or suicidal actions. I, however, think that religioous leader have a great deal of power to save those people from themselves. That's where the guilt of the Watchtower resides; having the ability to save someone, rather decides to push them over the cliff.
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  ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

  (published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

  thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

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  never a jw

  BOTR: This forum is NOT real life.

  But you love it here. Almost 10,000 posts in less than four years.

  Cheeserios,

  Your posts are way better than other posts by other "knowledgeable, expert" posters... and you don't even claim to have a law degree, or have great education, or be affluent. But mainly you inform and educate, rather than demean all the other members of this board by calling them ignorant, uneducated, unsophisticated.
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  Governing Body Member Gerrit Loesch Must Eventually Take The Witness Stand In Child Molestation Lawsuits

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. child-abuse

  with many more cases in the offing the zalkin lawfirm will press the issue again and again and force gerrit loesch to testify.

  what say you?.

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  Sarita J,

  The GB members are just independent contractors.
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  ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

  (published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

  thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

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  what does jehovah eat ?

  by bigmac in

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  2. beliefs

  yeah yeah---i know--spiritual food.. .

  or maybe---beans ( human beans ).

  for those on here who still believe in a god---how do you perceive him / her / it ?.

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  never a jw

  With such a horrible prophetic record, failure to stop suffering, constant undoing and redoing of covenants, constant killing of animals and plants only to redo them again, but slightly different from previous ones (otherwise called evolution), I guess he eats crow every day.
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  New development in my life

  by EdenOne in

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  no longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.

  but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.

  and i mean no one.. eden.

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  never a jw

  I don't come to this site as often, and I post even less, but learning about the possibility of your family not being included in the 2014 or 2015 publishers count and "in the cult" statistics makes me very happy and I needed to write my own comment. I wish you and your family the best. In spite of the almost certain rough times in the near future, I know you will be glad that this phase of your life is almost over.

  Congratulations! Now you have the opportunity to be happier and more useful to humanity.

  Fight the good fight. If you live in the Los Angeles area count me in your new circle of friends, if not, count me too.

  Felipe